[openmapi.org devel] Build System

[Johannes Roith]

Hello, Fred!

Still this is not a documentation issue. xbuild must be compatible to
msbuild. If this is not the case (or xbuild does crash) when
processing valid files, a bug report should be filed.

Johannes.

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Frederick
Roth<frederick.roth at innovidata.com> wrote:
> Hi Johannes,
>
> the problem is, that when you stick literally to the msdn documentation
> for msbuild, xbuild crashes without helping error messages.
>
> This is a state which I do not really like for a central and important
> tool like building.
>
> If it is not possible to copy the example from msdn literally there
> should be at least a working example on the xbuild homepage. I will try
> to get the developer to either document the differences to msbuild or
> eliminate those differences.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Fred
>
> Johannes Roith wrote:
>> Hello, Fred!
>>
>> Thanks! This is good news, and, since xbuild is a clone of msbuild I
>> did not consider the issue to be much of a problem anyway. Microsoft
>> has very good documentation on msdn.
>>
>> Johannes.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Frederick
>> Roth<frederick.roth at innovidata.com> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I opened a bug report against xbuild about the missing documentation.
>>>
>>> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=531276
>>>
>>> Now we at least have some usage help and the promise of a manpage.
>>>
>>> Additionally I found out what was the "error" in the .build file Achim
>>> provided. To compile you have to use the Csc task (with captial C at the
>>> beginning) maybe this is due to the unix bug of not ignoring case in
>>> filenames ;)
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> Fred
>>>
>>> Achim Derigs wrote:
>>>> Hi Johannes!
>>>>
>>>> Using xbuild/msbuild is difficult without any documentation:
>>>>
>>>> $ xbuild /?
>>>> No usage help yet
>>>>
>>>> Looking at http://www.mono-project.com/Microsoft.Build doesn't make things better.
>>>> Far from it! It is the only explicit documentation about xbuild.
>>>>
>>>> Implicit documentation may be found at:
>>>>
>>>>    http://www.tech-archive.net/Archive/VisualStudio/microsoft.public.vsnet.general/2006-12/msg00090.html
>>>>
>>>> But that doesn't match. For example:
>>>>
>>>> <Project DefaultTargets = "Compile"
>>>>     xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/developer/msbuild/2003" >
>>>>
>>>>     <PropertyGroup>
>>>>         <dllname>GoldParser</dllname>
>>>>     </PropertyGroup>
>>>>
>>>>     <ItemGroup>
>>>>         <CSFile Include = "lib/GoldParser/*.cs"/>
>>>>     </ItemGroup>
>>>>
>>>>     <Target Name = "Compile">
>>>>         <MSC
>>>>             Sources = "@(CSFile)"
>>>>             OutputAssembly = "$(dllname).dll">
>>>>             <Output
>>>>                 TaskParameter = "OutputAssembly"
>>>>                 ItemName = "EXEFile" />
>>>>         </MSC>
>>>>         <!-- Log the file name of the output file -->
>>>>         <Message Text="The output file is @(EXEFile)"/>
>>>>     </Target>
>>>> </Project>
>>>>
>>>> Results in:
>>>>
>>>> $ xbuild GoldParser.proj
>>>> XBuild Engine Version 0.1
>>>> Mono, Version 2.4.0.0
>>>> Copyright (C) Marek Sieradzki 2005. All rights reserved.
>>>>
>>>> Build started 8/14/2009 11:47:14 AM.
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>> Project "/home/felfert/nmapi/GoldParser.proj" (Compile target(s)):
>>>>
>>>> Target Compile:
>>>> System.Exception: Not registered task MSC.
>>>>   at Microsoft.Build.BuildEngine.TaskDatabase.GetTypeFromClassName (System.String classname) [0x00000]
>>>>   at Microsoft.Build.BuildEngine.BuildTask.get_Type () [0x00000]
>>>>   at Microsoft.Build.BuildEngine.BuildTask.InitializeTask () [0x00000]
>>>>   at Microsoft.Build.BuildEngine.BuildTask.Execute () [0x00000]
>>>>
>>>> Build succeeded.
>>>>          0 Warning(s)
>>>>          1 Error(s)
>>>>
>>>> Time Elapsed 00:00:00.0412230
>>>>
>>>> It seems that we have to wait for better documentation and/or code quality for a start.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>> Achim
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, 7. August 2009 17:31:01 Johannes Roith wrote:
>>>>> Hello, everyone!
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to see the NMapi build script changed from Makefiles to
>>>>> msbuild/xbuild.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are three main reasons:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. People keep asking about how to build NMapi on Windows. Using
>>>>> xbuild/msbuild removes the unix dependency and also makes it possible to
>>>>> build from VisualStudio (which has also been requested multiple times).
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. We are using several tools in the build process, including
>>>>> xslt-generated code, mlog (custom), preproc (custom) and, soon, mapimap.
>>>>> Using msbuild we can integrate these tools very nicely.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. It is difficult or impossible to build silverlight or iphone apps
>>>>> without msbuild.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mono XBuild (msbuild) seems to be complete enough to be used use it now.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, if you want to contribute to OpenMapi, this seems like a great
>>>>> opportunity to get involved!),
>>>>>
>>>>> Johannes.
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Devel mailing list
>>>>> Devel at openmapi.org
>>>>> http://www.openmapi.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Devel mailing list
>>>>> Devel at openmapi.org
>>>>> http://www.openmapi.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
>>> --
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Frederick Roth
>>> Softwareentwicklung
>>>
>>> InnoviData GmbH                    Tel. +49 711 88770-142
>>> Lilienthalstraße 2/1               Fax  +49 711 88770-299
>>> 70825 Korntal/Stuttgart            Cel. +49 170 7917742
>>> http://www.innovidata.com          frederick.roth at innovidata.com
>>>
>>> Geschäftsführer: Thomas Uhl
>>> Sitz und Amtsgericht Stuttgart, HRB 21082
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Devel mailing list
>>> Devel at openmapi.org
>>> http://www.openmapi.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
>>>
>>>
>
> --
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Frederick Roth
> Softwareentwicklung
>
> InnoviData GmbH                    Tel. +49 711 88770-142
> Lilienthalstraße 2/1               Fax  +49 711 88770-299
> 70825 Korntal/Stuttgart            Cel. +49 170 7917742
> http://www.innovidata.com          frederick.roth at innovidata.com
>
> Geschäftsführer: Thomas Uhl
> Sitz und Amtsgericht Stuttgart, HRB 21082
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>